https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K_aEeTl6VI

That’s not because it’s not a communist society, that’s because our government is run by shills paid by corporations to keep it that way.

Who runs a communist society? The people? Do we all take turns being president? What happens if it’s a bad dude’s turn and they don’t want to relinquish power?

The problem isn’t necessarily the economic system, the problem is the leadership appointed, combined with the people’s willful ignorance of their actions. Late-stage capitalism is definitely a problem, but in its current implementation more of a symptom of the points above.

tl;dr every system suffers from the same vulnerability: shitty people

Instead of “hating” can’t we just universally agree that the ultra-wealthy using private jets as their primary means of transportation is horrible for the environment and hold them all accountable for their part, considering their emissions are much larger than the average person and is only enabled by the money made in part from the emissions of others?

It shouldn’t matter who they are or how many jets they have. Maybe they shouldn’t use private jets all the time if they don’t want the bad publicity.

Right, and the PS4 was released in late 2013, so its lifecycle from then to the release of the PS5 was 7 years.

So being in the latter part of the PS5’s cycle is basically on par with the PS4, which only just saw its last new licensed title I believe.

Further evidence, the PS5 JUST got a mid cycle refresh, indicating essentially a halfway point. It’s all speculation but to me this timeline seems basically in line with every previous generation.

Playstation/PS One: 1994-2000 (6 years)

PS2: 2000-2006 (6 years)

PS3: 2006-2013 (7 years)

PS4: 2013-2020 (7 years)

PS5: 2020- (3+ years so far)

“Latter stage of its life cycle” basically means anything past the halfway point, and it’s already been out for like 4 years.

Considering how long it has taken for PS4 games to stop being published and for PS5 games to really get going, it’ll be a relevant console for several more years at least.

It’s not like it falls apart the second the PS6 is announced. I don’t like the thought of an accelerated console lifecycle either but this is such a vague statement a LOT of these reactions seems a little extreme for now.

I’ll do that just as soon as you show me something definitive showing that Apple has an entire revenue stream based on selling user data that isn’t reported.

Dude, get ahold of your emotions. 😂

Samesies my dude

lol I give you a source that refutes your “Apple bad” argument and you have to resort to going after me personally because you have nothing left.

The data collection you mention is device and usage stats, which basically everyone collects. But that was never the issue, which was selling user data for profit. The source I provided compares what Apple and Google collects and determines Apple does not do this.

You can also look up revenue streams for both companies and clearly see that while Apple does not consider this as a revenue stream, it makes up a significant portion of what Google brings in every year. At that point I think you just have misdirected anger.

lol yeah that’s what I was agreeing with you on 🤣

Your turn ;)

You could also just look at the revenue streams reported by each company and see that most other tech companies make a majority of their money on what Apple has been accused of doing.

Also you could just……review their public financial statements and compare to other tech companies. Google is very much an advertising company, and it’s a huge part of their reported profits. The fact that you could ignore that and think Apple is worse simply because you feel like they are is just a silly debate strategy.

Agreed with the main points you said. It’s one thing for a company to collect hardware data and usage stats for their services but to compare Apple to the likes of Google and Roku which make a majority of their profit on collecting and selling data, then there needs to be evidence of data collection beyond that.

For your own argument? No, I won’t prove your points for you.

If you believe Apple is doing something, I await evidence they are until shown otherwise. If you’re just flipping that logic around to shirk this, then you’re not actually trying to converse in good faith here.

If you want a source for my argument, here you go: https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/

I did what you said, and found this article that goes into what Apple does collect, compared to what Google collects, and confirms that no, Apple is not selling your data.

https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/

So I guess that means you’re wrong?

Maybe next time argue with facts and not feelings.

I’m happy to be proven wrong, but need a little more than some anon’s vague doubts first.

Do you have any examples beyond your own preconception?

If Apple were secretly doing this without user consent this would be a pretty huge liability for them.

Then it shouldn’t be difficult for you to provide me with some examples, considering the other listed companies literally do it openly as a major part of their revenue stream.

We should absolutely be upset with the shit Apple is doing, but right now you’re just being contrarian with a false argument.

Because Apple doesn’t rely on selling or advertising your data as a business segment. That alone makes them the lesser evil.

Still an evil, just less.