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  • There’s a good cartoon clip out there somewhere that’s about a preserve raised deer meeting a wild deer and talking about how their lives are so different. These animals are born on the preserves and live their whole lives there. They live 5 or 6 years in a protected environment with basically zero predators or parasites and never go hungry. They don’t even fear the hunters that pay to come and hunt them. They literally have never experienced being hunted before then. Who wouldn’t want to get reborn in deer heaven?

    Beekeeping is especially interesting because it’s the only animal husbandry I know of that has implicit concent. You can’t keep bees in captivity. Not really. The hive always goes crazy and dies. We still aren’t sure why. What we do know is that bees who aren’t being taken care of will abandon their apiary and go wild. The trick to keeping bees is that you have to make your apiaries better than anything the bees can make themselves. Protected, maintained, and warm mainly.

    Silk worms also have been selectively bred to the point that the species we use for harvesting can no longer survive without human intervention in most cases. If humans stopped harvesting the silk from these insects, they would eventually die off due to being unable to escape their coccoons naturally.


  • Step away from the emotional argument for a bit and simply consider the logistics. There is no evil in profiting from the cycle of life. Do you also believe herding to be cruel and unnatural? What about other animal product harvesting, like bee keeping or silkworm cultivation? Is it ethically dubious to mine limestone because the ancient crustaceans couldn’t consent?

    In my mind, the real problem is cruelty for profit. It should not be profitable to treat animals cruel, and that can only change with legislation. The system is too easy to abuse, and humans will almost always make pick the easy option over anything else.

    Humanity made the Amazon rainforest. It wasn’t easy. It probably wasn’t even on purpose. But the existence of the Amazon Rainforest as we know it today is the direct result of millions of people working hard for generations. The difference between the tens of millions of today and those millions of before is the mindset. The modern world has forgotten respect for the ground that births us. They do not see the creatures as brothers or cousins, but as resources to put on a spreadsheet. Everyone is so focused on wealth that they forget to consider the cycles all around us. Hell, when was the last time you considered that our planet is in the middle of an ice age? We’ve had 10,000 years of warmth and we so easily forget. How well do you think a plant based diet is going to work on a glacier?


  • Native Americans curated bison populations for thousands of years. Idk where you’re getting “almost drove the bison to extinction” from. In 1850, there were between 30 and 60 million bison on the plains. By 1870, there were less than 500 wild bison left. That’s not native American hunting. That’s white genocide. Don’t get it confused. Some plains Indians even claim kinship with the Bison as their spiritual totem.

    Look into accounts by settlers first traveling the America’s. They often wonder at how the forests seem to have wild orchards of berries and fruits, or how certain woods seem to have been maintained almost as if by a forester. It’s no coincidence. The plagues brought by the settlers killed 95% of my people, and those same settlers came and occupied the same space where me and mine had lived for eons. And then they had the temerity to call it divine providence. Filthy diseased savages tend to build filthy diseased societies, and here we are now.


  • Culling is not cruel or even morally ambiguous. It is morally and ethically right to cull out of control populations of animals for the betterment of the whole. Culling isn’t even necessarily for the sick or weak. Sometimes healthy young animals have to be put down for the betterment of the environment. Look into native American hunting practice and land conservation methodology.

    Modern farming is very much none of those things though.








  • LordGimp@lemm.eeto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneSerious rule
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    4 months ago

    See, we’ve given them more than enough money to buy their own country. You gotta take the training wheels off at some point, and 76 years seems like plenty of time to find their feet. At the very least, wander out into the desert like their dear Moses and build a new Jerusalem, with hookers, and blackjack, and matzoh. Especially the matzoh that shit is fuckin awful and we could all use a place designated to hold all of it. For cultural purpose of course.


  • LordGimp@lemm.eeto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJapanese cultu(rul)e
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    4 months ago

    We literally nuked them to cow them into surrender rather than spend millions of American and japanese lives in a brutal and ultimately pointless land campaign. We took away their glorious last stand on the home islands and replaced it with instant annihilation, lingering death, and the taste of the sun. It might have spared more Japanese lives in the long run, but it definitely saved a whole mess of American lives in an immediate way. That’s what really matters. USA #1 baybeee