• 0 Posts
  • 16 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: June 27th, 2023

help-circle
  • Greeks living in current western Turkey were called Ionians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionians

    They were mostly athenean settlers, which is why when Persia conquered them, they asked Athens for help. Athens helped them but the ionian revolt failed and Persia was super pissed. The persian emperor had his servant reminding him daily to “remember the athenians”.

    This is the main reason behind the persian invasion of mainland Greece. The persians burnt Athens to the ground, which eventually led to Alexander the OK burning Persepolis(Persian Empire’s Capital) to the ground(a couple centuries later).

    Since turks came from the East, Ionians were kinda the first greeks they met, so they decided that all greeks are Ionians(Yunans). Or other non greeks in the East were already calling greeks “yunans” and turks just adopted that terminology too. Especially since that term had been mostly depreciated by the time the turks arrived to the neighbourhood.




  • NIB@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    I mean germanic people/vikings raided/ruled southern Europe. The Mediterranean Sea was hugely important for trade and civilization, throughout the ages. Athens was a french duchy for a couple centuries, ruled by francs. Alps is not as isolating as, the Sahara desert. You have navigable rivers like Danube and southern France with access to the Mediterranean sea.

    Does your average norwegian have some greek dna? Maybe not. But ultimately everyone fucked everyone and people fucked people near them. And the Mediterranean Sea facilitated a lot of fucking, trading and conquering between the countries that had access to it.

    It’s like saying “the mongols never conquered Greece, therefore greeks dont have mongol dna”. The mongols fucked with turkic people and turkic(turks) people fucked with greek people. So i am sure greeks have some mongol dna.

    There is this funny video of turkish youtubers who did dna tests

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStTmMCtgBk

    And many of them have majority greek dna or a big part of greek dna.


  • NIB@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    The greeks had colonies everywhere. Odessa and Marseille started as greek colonies. They copied the phoenician model of “where there is sea, we can colonize, reinforce, conquer and trade with”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_colonisation

    And then Alexander the OK conquered the “entire” world. After his death, his empire was split into multiple hellenic(ie greek) kingdoms. Greek became the lingua franca, since the ruling class was greek, and greek culture was spread everywhere. Thats why the New Testament was written in greek.

    Hanukkah is actually the celebration of the uprising of the jews against their greek rulers. If you are somewhat familiar with the history of the era, you might have heard about the Seleucids or the Ptolemies. Those were greek kingdoms. Cleopatra was a Ptolemy and she was the first in her dynasty who bothered to learn egyptian. All previous Ptolemy rulers only spoke greek, their court was greeks and some hellenized(greekified) jews and egyptians. The Ptolemies were extremely incestuous.

    Then the romans came and conquered most of that. Some other greek kingdoms were taken back by their local population. Funnily enough, the last independent “greek” kingdom that survived was the most remote one, the Indo-Greek Kingdom.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

    An indogreek kingdom that fought chinese raiders. Thats an interesting crossover.


  • NIB@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneprotect yourself rule
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Bullets dont create holes. Once inside, they spin and/or deform, causing a lot more damage than a bullet sized hole. Apparently, when your brain is fucked this much, it is over. Of course it doesnt always work perfectly but more often than not, it does. It is by far the most effective way of killing yourself.

    The reason death sentences arent done using guns because aiming and shooting at people is hard and has psychological repercussions for the shooters. Even when executions were done by bullet, you had a lot of shooters so that noone had to bare the killing responsibility.




  • It is only using latin letters and it is 1 to 1 for the most part. But it isnt defined somewhere, there are different variations for some letters and the Greek alphabet is slightly different than the Latin one.

    For example the letter Greek letter “χ”(similar sound to English “h”) can be written as “x” or “h”. Χ looks like x but sounds like h, so either works.


  • It is actually a thing, called greeklish. It used to be more common/popular during the earlier days of computing/internet due to limited support of the Greek alphabet. It remained popular even later on and even today but i feel it is getting less popular nowadays.

    Google translate supports greeklish, you can select Greek and type greeklish and it will work.



  • NIB@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneMonthly Rule
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    7 months ago

    No it isnt. We arent computers, we are humans. In most uses, the year is the least relevant information for us. The most important information is the day, which should be in front. And computers can be programmed to understand the date in whichever format we want.



  • Well i and other people that i know were using the term for at least 10 years. I even had a friend break up partly because the other person was a tankie. Maybe the term was less common in other countries.

    Also tankie definition hasnt changed nor has been appropriated as a general slur. It has always meant communist who supports authoritarian policies.


  • A year later, a right wing dictatorship took over Greece(with the eventual support and blessing of the US). But at least Bill Clinton apologized about it when he visited Greece as the US President. Has Russia apologized for its crimes?

    Thats the difference. You wont find many supporters of the american coups. Yet for the russian ones, some communists(ie tankies) feel the need to defend them. And unlike the american coup supporters who are right wing lunatics, the russian coup supporters claim they are communists. Both are just sticking to their team, ignoring the actual facts.



  • Tankie has been a thing for over half a century. The Soviets used tanks(from other countries) to invade and crush antisoviet revolutions/protests in Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

    This was considered shocking for some communists and other leftists while some communists supported those actions. Those who supported this “intervention” were called tankies, in order to differentiate them from the non tank invasion supporting communists.

    In Greece(my country), which was in the “West”, this event caused the split of the greek communist party(KKE) into 2 separate parties, KKE(Moscow controlled tankies) and KKE “interior”(weak ass soy communists who cant stomach the use of tanks in order to create a better tomorrow).

    KKE “interior” kinda eventually became SYRIZA which surprisingly won the elections in 2015(breaking the 2 party status quo). Then the EU decided that the greek people decided poorly and punished them. So when the greek people decided correctly(elected a right wing government), the EU rewarded them. Carrots and sticks make the world go around. Thats how you make a majority leftist country, into a right wing one.

    PS Greek debt is as high as it has ever been but Greece issued negative interest bonds. Tell me again how is the economy supposed to work? Noone talks about the greek debt anymore, it’s a non issue, Greece has been accepted into the EU’s infinite money glitch scheme.