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  • vacuumflower@vlemmy.nettoLinux@lemmy.mlSuse Liberty Linux
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    1 year ago

    I mean, RH became dominant by not initially being a bag of dicks.

    So if SUSE becomes the main enterprise vendor (to more precisely address RH’s role, one can say “root enterprise vendor”), then its enshittification is just a matter of time.

    Other than that, I like Tumbleweed, it just works, and, unlike Fedora, without bullshit.

    Still the whole corporate atmosphere makes me wary. SUSE is good, we just shouldn’t put all our eggs into one basket (and should fix that with RH).






  • From what I can tell, the rebuilders are not adding any kind of value to the situation.

    They are adding popularity. Enterprise is slow to change in some ways, but I can totally see the trend of moving to Debian. RH seems to have forgotten their own history and how they’ve started with one Red Hat Linux, with paid support for those who wanted it, and that’s what gave them the popularity to be profitable.

    They don’t seem to want to artificially increase the difficulty of rebuilding RHEL sources, just to stop actively spending money making it easier when that work doesn’t return any money for the effort. Which is… Totally fair.

    They are, in fact, going to reduce their revenue. Which is the main criterion for a business, no?

    I mean, just like humans wither and die with time, so do companies.


  • Nobody and nothing living forever is one of the reasons centralization is bad. But humans sadly like to flock.

    RH is approaching the end of its life cycle. First they were hackers. Then they became a useful and aspiring business. Then RPM-based distributions were what made Linux not marginal anymore (though probably this also has something to do with Mandrake’s success). Then they became something in the center of things, connected to everything happening with Linux and other Unix-like systems (at least on desktop). Then they realized that and started milking that slowly. Then they became arrogant.



  • You mean that RH hates ergonomics? Agreed here.

    About the function of systemd (or docker, or pulseaudio, or gnome 3, or wayland) - well, I don’t need it, but I understand the usual arguments of its proponents. It does solve problems other init systems don’t. Only it’s such a PITA to use that I’m a Void Linux user.

    Especially sad considering that this was entirely different in the Gnome 2 times.


  • RH is the maintainer\developer of great many things. Of course it’d be nice for them to have good competition (like what Canonical was), so that they wouldn’t use that power for evil.

    Still them becoming weaker is not a case for optimism.

    I’d really like something like Gentoo with official binary packages (and relevant tree), so that building from source would be an option and installing a binary package the usual way. Well, also simpler installation maybe.

    I mean, Calculate Linux does that, but I think it’s a Russian small-business oriented distribution, so not exactly my use case.


  • Maybe systemd gets grouped with wayland and xorg with other init systems simply because of usability?

    I mean, I got used to the thought that what I prefer is less usable, because some pretentious UX designers say so, and we Unix nerds use inconvenient things because we are all perverts.

    But when I read about industrial design and ergonomics, it seems that my preferences are consistent with what I read, and all those UX designers and managers should just be fired for incompetence and malice.

    Back to wayland/xorg and runit/systemd (for example), same reason FreeBSD may seem easier to set up and use than an “advanced” Linux distribution - there’s less confusion.



  • Possible if they respect your opinion, not really if you are a weird guy with a disorder whom they like, but are not going to take as a tech authority or something.

    I already had this with recommending Linux (and other Unix-like OSes). All my attempts to even talk about it were taken with zero understanding, but once another person tried Fedora and liked it, this started spreading like a virus.


  • Well, there’s a question of how exactly are they going to do this.

    XMPP? Everybody who had XMPP has dropped it. It’s not at all obsolete, but the fact is that companies don’t like it.

    Closed federation between friends with some proprietary protocol (possible with XMPP too, though)? Well, so I’ll be able to write to WhatsApp users from Facebook Messenger or Viber. Doesn’t change much, TBF.

    I mean, I can imagine them setting something up for identities and private messages from them going back and forth. But practically important features would likely still be locked.


  • Same age here. However the problem is not only that, but also our (as in “people enthusiastic and understanding of it”) failure to communicate to “normies” (yes, it’s a derogatory term, but a deserved one) what the Web is and how it should function, and what are the threats.

    I’m very optimistic about Locutus (Freenet 2023), looks quite similar to things I dreamed about for a long time, only this time it’s real. Imagine dreaming about spaceships and then seeing one built for the same general goal, but for bloody real.

    It may really be a changing point (provided it doesn’t get banned and regulated, which is unironically a risk ; remember how BTC ban was being considered in many countries until it became clear that it doesn’t have the potential to be a daily currency due to well-known downsides).